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(NaturalNews) This interview is an excerpt from Kevin Gianni's Renegade Water Secrets, which can be found at (http://www.renegadewatersecrets.com) . In this excerpt, Barry Carter shares on getting and applying ormus.

Renegade Water Secrets with Barry Carter, leading authority on ormus, a "white, powder gold."

Kevin: How does someone get ormus and then how are you applying it?

Barry: Oh, it's really, really quite easy. If you have access to sea water or even Celtic sea salt or Dead Sea salt, as long as the salt is crude, unrefined salt. Celtic salt will be kind of damp and gray-colored. That kind of raw salt, you mix it with water or you just put your sea water in a container and if you're going to consume it, you want to boil it before you do anything else. But if you're just going to put it on plants, you just add sodium hydroxide, which is the same thing as lye and raise the pH, the alkalinity of the water, up to 10.78 and no higher, and you'll get a white precipitate. And this precipitate will drop out, will fall down to the bottom of your container and you take the clear liquid off the top and there will be very little, if anything, wax equivalent at the top in terms of the ormus and the white precipitate that's left at the bottom will be about thirty percent ormus and seventy percent other elements like magnesium, calcium and so on. The precipitate, you want to wash it several times before you consume it because you're just washing the salt out. It isn't particularly healthful. It a very easy process, though it is dangerous to work with lye.

Kevin: Sure.

Barry: Your grandmother probably made soap using lye. That was a typical thing for people to do back in the old days. People still make lye soap. You can still buy lye from soap makers probably as easy as just about anything.

Kevin: In the extraction process what's happening?

Barry: Well, as the pH changes, certain portions of the stuff in there are no longer become insoluble in water. It precipitates out and this insolubleness, this precipitation, allows us to see it and separate it. There are other very, very easy ways to separate it. One of the easiest ways is just get some grape seed oil -- crude, unrefined grape seed oil -- and some of the Celtic sea salt (gray, Celtic sea salt) and mix it about half and half with grape seed oil and sea salt. Shake it up good and let it sit. The ormus seems to go into the grape seed oil -- the oil portion of the ormus seems to go into the grape seed oil. And that's really good. People have used it for skin care and for consumption for a while.

Kevin: Okay, so there is an oil characteristic to it as well?

Barry: Yeah. We're not sure exactly what it is, but there seems to be that the ormus likes to hide out inside of water molecules. It doesn't make a chemical bond with those water molecules, it just hangs out inside the molecules and acts as a resonator to change the shape of those water molecules. We think it also does that with oil, with air, with various chemical compounds. It will hang out inside a molecular structure and change the characteristics of that molecular structure and what I think we're doing is we're seeing in the terms of the oil or the white powder, we're seeing the structure that's around it, rather than the ormus itself. We're seeing the chemical "box" that it's in. Imagine you have a really, really slippery bowling ball with no finger holes in it and you want to pick it up. How do you do it? Wow, it's greasy. You can't pick it up. So what you do is you roll it into a box and pick up the box. That's what I think we're doing. We're manipulating the container that the ormus hangs out in. So when we concentrate it this way by precipitating it and put it on plants and give it to animals, then the benefits of that nutrient are available.

There's an interesting thing here and that is that if you imagine that this ormus element hanging out inside the molecule can literally change the shape of the molecule, sort of like sand vibrating on a plate, you change the frequency of the vibration and the pattern changes in the sand. Have you ever seen that?

Kevin: Yes.

Barry: Well, that changing pattern, we think that the ormus might be hanging out inside every water molecule or many water molecules and that when we change the frequency of the vibration of that ormus element, it then puts a different frequency out around it and that changes the shape of the water molecule and different shaped water molecules work in different ways in the body.

Now there's some scientists, there's quite a few scientists right now that believe that something called quantum coherence exists in biological systems; people and plants and animals. And quantum coherence means that there's an instantaneous communication system going on. One ormus researcher in Australia used to be a rocket scientist. He was the guy that designed the feedback system on the rocket so that the rockets could hit a wind gust at the top and it wouldn't knock them over. They had to instantly respond by moving the rocket this way or that to respond to those changes in atmospheric condition and his job was to calculate how fast the response had to be. Well, he calculated how fast our response would have to be in order to play table tennis. Table tennis is a pretty fast activity and he figured out that nerve impulses couldn't possibly, weren't even close to being fast enough to play ping pong, let alone be the thought processes that are necessary for ordinary life. So, you figure there has to be some much, much, much, much faster communication systems in bodies than nerve impulses and other scientists have basically said the same thing.

Some of them have said it looks like the DNA isn't even the pattern for the body. All it is an antenna that connects us to the pattern. Dr. Peter Gariaev from Russia has demonstrated experimentally this may be the case. The DNA just connects to the non-physical spirit template of the body. So, if this ormus is involved with this communication -- cellular communication -- even inside of every water molecule and is part of this communication system that allows instantaneous communication between all of the cells, then that would account for all of the amazing results that we've seen with plants and animals and people in terms of improvement in their growth and their health and all of the other things. It's improving our connection with everything else.

To read the rest of this transcript as well as access 6 different water experts just like Barry Carter, to discover your most pressing questions about water, please visit (http://www.RenegadeWaterSecrets.com) .

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