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Dr. Rashid Buttar talks vaccines on the Robert Scott Bell Show

Saturday, May 12, 2012 by: NaturalNews
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(NaturalNews) Dr. Rashid Buttar guest-stars on the Robert Scott Bell Show to talk about Dr. Paul Offit, the devout vaccine entusiast who has probably ? in Dr. Buttar's words ? singlehandedly poisoned and killed literally millions of children worldwide. Dr. Buttar and Robert also cover important, breaking news regarding vaccines, such as the newly documented admission by the FDA that vaccines still contain mercury.

Robert Scott Bell: I sure would like to extend April Fool's Day, just one more day, if you can indulge us here on the Robert Scott Bell Show as we are joined by Dr. Rashid Buttar for some serious advanced medicine here. April Fool's- I told everybody Dr. Buttar, yesterday that I was an agent of the CDC. Do you think anybody believed me?

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Well, considering it was not April 1st maybe they did.

Robert Scott Bell: Yeah, well. What can you do? Anyway, we've got an April Fool's story to kick into gear today, actually. We got forwarded a message The Refusers sent out, about Dr. Paul Offit, devout vaccine prophet. This was a story that made both of us laugh out loud.

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Yeah this was hilarious. This was actually, it would be actually very, very close to the actual occurrences were he actually to take this challenge that Dr. Blaylock put out, but, I mean it is almost like you could make an assumption that this would be what the reality would be were the 100,000 vaccines to be taken. Amazing, this was a really funny story. Did you already read this, Robert?

Robert Scott Bell: No, I'd only gotten it moments before you did, so we kinda went through it at the same time and when I saw the headline I thought, ok this is a great April Fool's headline because knowing Dr. Offit- for those that don't know who Dr. Offit is, I mean he literally is a shill for the vaccine industry. There is nothing a vaccine can do that is harmful, and it can only help, and he's an attack dog. If anybody comes out and even questions it. The science or anything. Literally the guy is like the vicious dog that's salivating just to go after you.

Dr. Rashid Buttar: But he's also the guy who developed a lot of these vaccines, he's, you look at him and you can see corruptness written write across his face. I mean the guy is probably the most disgusting and disgraceful piece of human specimen that has ever faced this Earth. Can you tell that I don't like the guy?

Robert Scott Bell: We share that, we don't like him that much. Why? Because he does not stand for true science. In fact this story-

Dr. Rashid Buttar: More than that, Robert, it's more than that. He singlehandedly has probably poisoned and killed literally millions of children worldwide. This guy makes Hitler look like a nice guy as far as I'm concerned. There's a reason that he's had death threats and there's a reason that he's had to have, you know, security placed around him because he's so, or has requested security because his life has been threatened. I think he's Satan incarnated, personally.

Robert Scott Bell: Really? Wow. Well, it's intense but when you understand what's behind that, and we'll go through a few of those things. In a challenge to neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock, who we've talked about here, I interviewed him years ago, basically Dr. Offit had taken 100,000 vaccines, injected by his wife, pediatrician Dr. Bonnie Offit, and ended up in the hospital. That's the April Fool's story. And it goes on from there. What were the highlights?

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Oh it's so funny because it says that Dr. Offit stated that, ?as I've stated in October 2005, Parent's Pack Newsletter from Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, that my studies show healthy infants could safely get up to 100,000 vaccines at once, and I intend to demonstrate this to debunk the false prophets of the vaccine-autism link once and for all.' So according to the story he was going to take 100,000 vaccines and then it says that Dr. Offit received 38 injections per square inch of his body in the marathon vaccine injection session. At 38 vaccines, he developed convulsions and was admitted to Philadelphia Children's Hospital with severe cases of atypical measles, chickenpox, pertussis, pneumonia, rotavirus and encephalitis. This hospital issued a statement stating that Dr. Offit was probably faking his symptoms because scientific studies show that vaccines have been proven to be 100 percent safe and effective and never cause adverse reactions.

Robert Scott Bell: I mean this was brilliant, utilizing all of his language against him, because he did actually claim that they could take 100,000 vaccines at once, did he not?

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Absolutely, he did.

Robert Scott Bell: That is the most bizarre thing that you could ever do. How he sleeps at night, unless he's on multiple meds. A spokesman for Merck, which made 99,999 of the 100,000 vaccines said, ?Sometimes neurological diseases occur in a random temporal association with vaccination. Correlation is not causation. No one should know this better than Dr. Offit and we refuse to take responsibility for his health problems. If he erroneously believes that vaccines have caused his illnesses he should just apply to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act for relief. It was created expressly to protect innocent vaccine manufacturers like us from frivolous lawsuits from so-called vaccine adverse reaction victims.'

Dr. Rashid Buttar: And you know, this is so funny because this is the stance by the pharmaceutical companies, it's exactly how they take the stance. They act as if they're the victims and that everybody that has ever applied to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation program is an opportunist. Whereas in fact, these were people that were healthy, had no problems, the children had no problems until they were vaccinated and then they ended up having these debilitating symptoms and some of these children are going from completely neuro-typic development to severe autism, convulsions, encephalitis type pictures. We've seen children becoming blind and precocious puberty and all sorts of other crazy things.

Robert Scott Bell: Well, from his hospital bed the funny April 1st article goes, Dr. Offit gave this response: 'Now I understand how the vaccines are injuring children and adults. I promise to work to correct the great injustice that I have personally inflicted on innocent vaccine victims. If I ever recover from this paralytic neurological damage caused by vaccination, I will work tirelessly to ensure that such a thing never happens to another innocent child.' Now this is brilliant, I don't know if you'd call it parody, but certainly as an April Fool's thing it was brilliantly constructed. Based on facts, like the statement that he made.

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Absolutely, the paragraph before that says the Chief Special Master of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program's Kangaroo Court issued a statement saying ?Unfortunately, Dr. Offit's symptoms are not covered under our program. There's absolutely no scientific evidence showing that vaccines can cause the diseases they were designed to prevent. Dr. Offit is mistaken if he believes he can mock the system with his phony vaccine injury claims.' I was just dying when I read that. They referred to the vaccine injury claims as being phony, which is exactly what they do. And Offit's said that publicly numerous times, I mean, I really like this. In fact, I'm going to make a copy of this and I'm going to save this. Hopefully one day, this will become reality and Offit will take Dr. Blaylock's challenge and inject himself, but you know, between Robert you and I, any human being if they got 100 vaccines at one time would have severe problems and there's no way someone could have more than 200 vaccines and still be alive as far as I'm concerned. I mean, maybe 200, 250, but he made this comment 100,000 vaccines. That is the most absurd thing. 100,000 of anything- 100,000 aspirins will kill you, 100,000 whatever will kill you, it's just absurd. Even 100,000 apples, which is a healthy thing, will kill you.

Robert Scott Bell: I think he would faint at the sight of his first needle, but that's just me.

Dr. Rashid Buttar: I agree with you.

Robert Scott Bell: Now, NaturalNews just covered a story on April 1st and it wasn't an April Fool's joke. In fact it was the FDA admitting in a court case that vaccines still contain mercury. Now this is not news to you or I. This is something I want to reiterate here that those that are under the illusion that somehow at a certain point that they've started going, hmm, maybe mercury is there, we better pull it out- that it was actually pulled out, this basically puts that to rest that we knew it. I want you to comment on that fact as well.

Dr. Rashid Buttar: Well Robert this is a very important story as far as I'm concerned because the vast majority of the public, when talking with them when I have patients coming or when I'm giving a presentation somewhere and I make this comment about the vaccines still containing mercury, most people, the vast majority, I would say 85% plus, look at me like I'm crazy and make the statement, something to the extent, "well, that was taken out back in the early 2000's." People still think that the FDA, the FTC, the governmental agencies, the CDC had already taken out mercury. We've talked about this on the show numerous times, when Congressman Dan Burton as far as 8 years ago, in fact, no almost even longer than that, it was 2003, asked for criminal sanctions to be brought against the FDA and the FTC after asking the head of the FDA and the FTC why are there four different batches of four different kinds of vaccine that we have tested independently and seen that there is not only thimerosal but other types of substances such as aluminum and nickel, etc., in these vaccines and yet the label says it's thimerosal-free. Thimerosal, for those that may not know, is ethel-mercury, it's a biologically more active form than inorganic mercury and inorganic mercury is known to be the second most toxic substance known to man. And of course the reason that was given back to Congressman Dan Burton was that previously they would add ethel-mercury or thimerosal to a vial to make the complete vaccination back in 2001, 2000-2001 time frame, after the CDC recommended, didn't mandate but recommended to the vaccine companies to consider taking out thimerosal, what they started doing was instead of adding the thimerosal to the vaccine and then the actual vaccine into a vial, they stopped adding the thimerosal to the vaccine but what they did was they used it in the manufacturing process and that was the reason that the Federal Trade Commission gave to Congressman Dan Burton- that because it is no longer added to the vial, because it's pre-added when we're manufacturing it, there's no requirement to label the vial that has mercury. So now they can actually put thimerosal-free on those vaccines.

Robert Scott Bell:
Because, Dr. Buttar, it's there naturally.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Exactly, it's there naturally. These are the types of things that people don't know and the government continues to create these illusions that everything is safe and everything is hunky-dory and in actuality, not only is the offending action continuing but it's actually continuing in a much larger scale because now the people that are consciously trying to abstain from certain activities that would prevent them from being exposed to these toxins now have this false sense of security that everything's ok. So they partake in it, thinking that part's been taken care of and in actuality it hasn't.

Robert Scott Bell:
This was the whole idea of greening the vaccines movement, as well, Dr. Buttar. That somehow if we don't have as much of the bad stuff it's now considered green, then they say it's naturally occurring, they're just making that up. Like grape juice naturally contains less than ? percent of alcohol, this is not what we're talking about, a botanical or a food in these injectable forms. I think perhaps the only way they could make a vaccine safe is if it were only saline and nothing else.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Well, Robert, you look at the movement, the green movement now, this is what you bring up it's a very interesting point because look at the bulbs, the light bulbs. Now they're saying that these are the green light bulbs and they have mercury in them. It's under the same pretense, it's exactly what you're saying and it's not so far-fetched what you just said, maybe it's extreme, but it's not too extreme. What they're actually doing, they're actually using the green movement as a shield to increase the toxicity that we're being exposed to. I mean just think about how many people have dropped a bulb, an incandescent bulb and broken it. I mean, everybody does it, it's a normal thing. Now when you break it you're gonna have a hazardous, chemical spill that using the current standards that are put out by OSHA, would require a school to shut down, HAZ-MAT suit individuals to come in, and wall that area off as a biologically hazard waste, biologically hazard, what do they call it, spill site.

Robert Scott Bell:
Listen, Dr. Buttar, think about that, what you just said because it's very important. How often are light bulbs broken in daily life? I don't mean we break one everyday, but look around at the millions of people and hundreds of millions of light bulbs there are. It's a pretty normal occurrence. Now, if indeed these so-called green light bulbs, which are the mercury CFLs, are dropped and such, how often are we hearing about HAZ-MAT teams being called in to clean these things up?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Exactly. There's not enough HAZ-MAT teams on this planet and all the other planets if you put them together to even cover one country, let alone a continent or the whole world. It's ridiculous that they're doing this. Everyone that I know, Robert, is going out and buying as many incandescent bulbs as they possibly can. I'm not going to have any of those bulbs in my house, those mercury bulbs.

Robert Scott Bell:
I'm almost thinking of traveling with bulbs. You know, when I go to these hotels and they have them in there, I unscrew them. I hate the light. Just the energy coming from them is just awful. Now when we come back from this break, I'm gonna reveal something to everyone because I was just up at the 10th amendment center's Nullify Now conference about this very issue of these so-called broken light bulbs. And if you go out shopping for home goods and light bulbs, you might want to know this before you go to some of these places that I'll tell you about. With Dr. Buttar here on Advanced Medicine Monday on the Robert Scott Bell show, after this.

Robert Scott Bell:
If you go to a home improvement center, you might want to take extra selenium or some homeopathic remedies to detox the mercury. Why do I say that? Well, at the 10th Amendment Center's Nullify Now conference, I met a lot of great people there, found a lot of fans of the Robert Scott Bell show as well. One guy in particular came up to me and told me that he loves learning about what we talk about here, Dr. Buttar, but he says he works at one of those and I'm not gonna name whether it's a Home Depot or a Lowe's or one of those. But it's a home improvement warehouse kind of place and he says about those mercury bulbs because I mentioned them in my talk, and he says, I can't tell you how many times we'll get these pallets of the stuff and they'll be dropped and broken and I asked him point blank just like I mentioned before the break, I asked do you call the HAZ-MAT teams to clean them up? He says, never once did they ever do that. So think about that on that scale anytime you go into one of those places you can bet that they've broken mercury bulbs regularly. And if you're there, you might want to take precaution.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
And as much as I hate saying it, Robert, selenium is not gonna do anything if you've been exposed to inorganic mercury at that scale? Selenium's not going to protect you.

Robert Scott Bell:
No, I'm just talking about building it up all the time. For the worker, they're gonna be toast, but for those in the back and you're exposed at a counter, still. It's still tremendous detriment to anybody's health to be out there unknowingly inhaling mercury vapor just when you're going for a new toilet seat.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
There's nothing that I know of, I don't care how many IV DMSP treatments or whatever you do, that's gonna protect you from that type of exposure. To me, that's like murder. I don't know how anybody could survive that type of exposure and these workers, especially those workers. I mean one person coming in and being exposed, that mercury vapor's going to have dissipated to a certain extent, but a person that's right there when they break it, and especially recurrent exposure? Dentists that are dealing with amalgams? They have just now had their, they're no longer the highest risk group. Dentists and dental hygienists are no longer the high exposure group. It's these people that are working those docks.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah, it's extraordinary. I wish, I didn't ever think of it before and I wasn't shocked but at the same time I was. Because we know how these things happen to green things and then they ignore the unintended consequences, which is what happens when government gets involved every time. Yet now we have to take even more precautions everywhere we go. So this is just another level of warning or another layer of warning for everybody about this. Now, what about the issue of cancer? Now this is something that you and I've talked about a lot, Dr. Buttar, and you've helped so many people and yet there's a lot of what they call scientific studies that are supposed to be gold standard stuff which we've also kinda blown the lid on a lot of that. But there's a new article here that just came out saying that like 87% of these so-called landmark cancer studies cannot be duplicated. And those are the studies that are utilized to authorize and support and approve treatments in traditional allopathic oncology.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Yeah the standard of care- they love using that phrase- the standard of care, as if the standard of care actually has some validity. Their standard of care is basically made up of a bunch of conjecture and they pull it out of thin air. And this article clearly states that- what is that, 85%?

Robert Scott Bell:
87% can't be duplicated. Now what does that mean? If you can't duplicate a study, wouldn't that call into question the basis for an entire realm of treatments?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Absolutely. In fact, if you can't replicate a study, it's not a study. The whole purpose of this, which they refer to as evidence-based, which is nothing based on evidence. It's so oxymoronic what they say. Because what doctors that are practicing medicine holistically, integrative doctors, what I do in my clinic, that is proved on evidence. That is based on evidence. They take our term, based upon evidence, evidence based, and they call- they now refer that "evidence based" and contort it somehow, some type of metamorphosis occurs and they use the double-blind, placebo-controlled crossover study, and they call that evidence-based. And yet here is exactly proof that that evidence-based medicine is not evidence-based. I hope I'm not confusing people now. Calling it evidence-based, which has nothing to do with evidence. This double-blind, placebo-controlled crossover multiple center trial is the way they're doing it. It's not legitimate. In fact, if it was legitimate it would be able to be reproduced. Now, I'll give you an example, Robert. I just did a double-blind, placebo-controlled study based on these energy bands. It was a crossover trial. Just to see subjectively what people are seeing. One of the things we found out doing that study was an interesting correlation. We found out that as many people in the experimental group that saw benefit- the same number in the placebo group saw benefit, which means that the placebo and the real thing didn't have any effect. It was like 26 to 5 or 26 to 6 that saw a benefit in the placebo group and in the real thing. But then we crossed them over, and the cross over means you take the placebo group, the people that aren't on the real thing, and put them into the real thing, and then see what they experience. And we had more than 80% of the group that crossed over said oh, I thought I was getting a benefit, now I can clearly see the benefit, feel the benefit. So you still had the crossover group on the placebo group, when they cross over to the experimental side, actually experienced a benefit. And the conclusion of that study, I made a comment about this. I said that even though in the beginning the placebo group saw the same benefit as the other group, when we crossed them over, the placebo group was then aware that what they thought was a benefit, that they weren't having one. They were able to distinctly experience the benefit when they were on the real thing. But it goes to the point that regardless, if so many people had a benefit from placebo, why are we not using the placebo? What difference does it make if it's a placebo or not placebo if you're getting a benefit? That's the whole point. That we should be using this free tool that the creator has given us to elicit a response in individuals, especially when it doesn't cost any money, it doesn't cost any effort. It's just an illusion, but the power of the mind is so amazing that it can elicit a response. So the placebo aspect is something that I think medicine should actively-

Robert Scott Bell:
Should be embraced, not denigrated.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Exactly. It should be embraced and not denigrated. Absolutely. But this point, now this cancer study goes to the other extreme and shows that what they're saying is science is actually a bunch of?

Robert Scott Bell:
Oh my goodness, well, the effect as we say the placebo effect should be embraced, not denigrated. And on top of that, when we go to the 87 percent of the cancer studies that are supposed to be seminal and landmark that prove efficacy of treatment and goes into the standard of care, which we know is sub-standard. And that's an understatement. We now have to recognize that most all of modern medicine is operating in an insane asylum and they're somehow tricking us to be part of it. Now thankfully, Dr. Buttar and others have woken up and called them on it, which is why they've been attacked all these years, and which is why I left them. The thoughts of being part of the medical profession years ago, because of what I saw it do to me. But many more millions of people around the world are now waking up and are seeing this and rather than looking at us funny are looking at their old doctors who don't see this yet and going, you don't know this?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Robert, I'll tell you, something really funny happened this last weekend. I had a guy that called me, his wife has cancer. They had a consult. The wife, the brother-in-law, who is a vet, the patient herself and her husband are all on the phone, and the man starts to tell me about his wife. He's clearly concerned about her. She's got stage II "b" cancer. And come to find out that he owns like seven different surgical centers employing like 30 different doctors or 20 different doctors, I don't remember how many doctors. And they're close family friends of doctors, this and that, everybody- the guy has all the access to medical professionals that he needs, and they, when his wife got cancer, they asked their opinions but they didn't want to do anything that the specialists were saying, and more than half of the doctors that he employs told him that if it was my wife, I would not let her do chemo or radiation. These are conventional guys, these aren't integrative guys. I was amazed when he told me that.

Robert Scott Bell:
Well this continues things that I've witnessed over the years, we've talked about as well. Many docs that would consult me as a homeopath, their family members or they themselves had severe issues and said I'm not putting myself through what I do to others, which is sort of horrific if you think about it. At the same time if we thought that that part of medicine is over, it's still going on, as evidenced by what you just saw. And you just shake your head and go, how do these people do it? How can they feel good about what they do when they go to work everyday?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
How can they live with themselves?

Robert Scott Bell:
This is the consciousness I guess that we have that maybe not everybody does. But we certainly feel like that in our audience the consciousness is there because of the support we're getting, the enthusiasm, and go get ?em guys kind of attitude. We had that out there at the Nullify Now event as well. People were very excited to learn about these things. I talked a lot about the idea that we each have a constitution, you know, as we focal-point on the 10th amendment and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, I said lest we forget, our own constitution. Because if you think you can actively support, defend, or let's say re-establish the one that's on the federal level without supporting your own constitution, you will not have the energy to do so. You will be weakened, you will be drugged, you will be enslaved to the pharmaceutical complex that keeps you down, and what we're trying to do is wake people up. And what that body that we're supporting here is the big part of that ability.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
And I think that if you weren't doing that, Robert, if we weren't effectively doing that on this radio show, I don't think you would've been nominated, don't think your show would've been nominated as the top, what is it, the top five shows at the live event?

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah, the live event and thank you for bringing that up again to remind everybody to please vote. We'll have that link in today's show notes as well. The ALive Foundation, the big event, the Academy Awards for health, health freedom. Dr. Buttar will be there as well and that's up in New York, June 29th and 30th. The Robert Scott Bell show was nominated for best health show, and we're up against some good shows, as well. We appreciate your support and votes and spread the word.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Absolutely, I think that's great.

Robert Scott Bell:
So the cancer thing. The cancer thing, though. I mean, I just- I don't have to be outraged, I don't have to outrage for effect or anything because I just read that and anybody that reads that and finds out that 87 percent of the seminal, landmark studies can't be duplicated. It's like, come one, isn't the jig up by now?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Well, I think that it's coming very close to being up, but until that death struggle is complete, they'll still try to perpetuate their misinformation as much as they possibly can.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah, the Bruce Willis movies come to mind. Die Hard, and then Die Hard With a Vengeance, where they try to lash out and get more people involved in this through coercive means like through Obama care. That's a big thing, the Supreme Court's deciding or mulling over that whole issue of the individual mandate. We're gonna see the rise of the 10th amendment on a level that we've never seen before since the days of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, if they declare it on the Supreme Court level constitutional. Because I know personally hundreds, if not thousands that have told me there's no way that I am complying. I've put up with it this much but that's one step too far. If they tell me I have to participate, forget it, they can come and get me. That's what I'm hearing.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Well Robert I'm gonna be among that group that's saying come and get me because I have not paid for health insurance since I got out of the military in 1996. My employees have it, my family has it, but I refuse to partake in the health insurance scam. I mean it's been what? 16 years since I had health insurance and that was when I got out of the army in 1996. So I'm going to be among those people, but you know this is actually patho-pnuemonic [sic] of everything that's been going on now, like this other article that you sent me about the 4H aspect.

Robert Scott Bell:
Oh yeah, we gotta cover that, let's take a quick break so we have more time to cover it but yeah it looks like the Obama administration's not satisfied with coming after you for Obama care but now it wants to prevent your children from working with you on your family farm. This is shocking stuff coming up after this. Remember, all the notes are up on, including the links to Dr. Buttar and his amazing top-selling, best-selling book The Nine Steps to Keep the Doctor Away. If you haven't gotten it yet, please do so. We'll be right back after this.

Robert Scott Bell:
Remember, you can always call us at 866-939-Bell, 866-939-2355, leave a message 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you have a question for Dr. Buttar, the next Advanced Medicine Monday we'll include it in the show. Right now Dr. Buttar, this is amazing. Now you have a ranch, you're growing things, you've got animals. This new thing, and I've got the story, I'll link it up in the show notes, what is this 4H? Tell us about this because you knew about it immediately when I sent this to you.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Well Robert, 4H is actually a youth organization very similar to the Future Farmers of America, which is a similar organization but that's usually to do with school. In other words, FFA, Future Farmers of America is a school organization. 4H is more like the Boy Scouts, except it's agriculturally related. 4H, it stands for the head, hands, heart and health, which is on their symbol, which is a clover. But essentially, it's like a Future Farmer of America organization. Very, very popular. Pretty much everybody in rural America knows the 4H club. Now it's amazing to me that the heart and soul of America, which was built upon ranches and farms, that this organization has founded those principles of agriculture, animal husbandry, etc. They're going to try to remove children from being taught this very, very basic, elemental aspect of agriculture and of sustainability? I mean, my son is all over the ranch. He knows how to operate every piece of equipment. I mean, we don't let him, but he can. He gets on his quad and he gets on the golf carts and of course he can do the tractors too, but we don't let him get on the tractors. But it's absurd to say that because 23 out of 100,000 children die?what about the, what about the 100, or 200, or 500, or 1,000 children that die from every 100,000 vaccines that are given? Or more? What about that?

Robert Scott Bell:
Well, the Obama administration has not come out and said it wants to ban vaccines in children, or children getting vaccines, but yet, working on the farm- that's why it begs the question. What, or who, is to gain? Because with everything we've seen these administrations, and Bush before, as well, do is for the benefit of certain sectors of the monopoly type economy. And of course, big-agra businesses- I'm not saying they're hurting bad yet, but they are starting to get a dent or chink in their invincibility because more people are moving toward kinda primal diet lifestyle, these free-grazing animals, not the multi-national corporate and factory farming methods. People are starting to move away from that.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Well, that's one of the reasons that I have our own livestock, I have everything ourselves, and one of my neighbors told me, you do know they could come and take anything the want whenever they want. I said, well, that's where the right to bear arms comes into the picture.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah. Well, also that comes to- I saw Sheriff Mack, Richard Mack [sic] who is like a brilliant sheriff, at the Nullify Now conference as well. And he's doing his level best to educate all the sheriffs on their superior status on the local, county level. When unconstitutional federal actions or agents come in under color of law, the sheriff has the right, duty and obligation to throw them back out. You know what we need to do, I'll just throw this out there for you. We need to somehow sponsor- I mentioned this to Sheriff Mack, it's a hard thing to put on, but sponsor some kind of sheriff's meeting, like in North Carolina, like in Florida. Get these stunts on a state level to bring Richard Mack in, and others, and it would transform the terrain immediately.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Robert, my plan was to actually have a copy of Sheriff Mack's book for each of the 100 counties in North Carolina, for each of the sheriffs. We were gonna invite them to our office and actually do a presentation and then give them all a copy of the book because I want to do this for the whole state of North Carolina. And this happened, actually, the month we were planning on doing this, we decided in November of 2007 to do this, but it was the same month the medical board filed those false charges against me. So I got a little sidetracked with that.

Robert Scott Bell:
That's a bizarre timing of coincidence there.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Yeah, well, that's what we were planning on doing because I had our auditorium as you know from the old office, 120 seating conference room. And we had everything planned out, and we'd already contacted the association and found out what the pricing of the books were, which we could get the books for $10 a book, and we had gotten a listing of all the North Carolina sheriffs.

Robert Scott Bell:
Well, let's not give up on that idea. There's gotta be a way to revitalize it because it's become more important than ever.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
I've got all the infrastructure already in place. We know exactly how to get the listing of them, we got the past sheriffs and the current sheriffs, the listings with their phone numbers, their email addresses, their office addresses, contact information. We had everything, mail merge letter created, ready to send out to them, letting them know that it was going to be no charge to them, come, all you have to do is come to our facility and watch this presentation. We have a free copy of the book for them. We had everything planned.

Robert Scott Bell:
Wow. Well, listen, I'm in touch with Sheriff Mack, so if we want to revitalize, reactivate anytime, it's one of the most vitally important and efficient- you know we talk about efficient action. It's not just action for actions sake. It's action that actually makes a difference. Very powerful. That's why the concept of the sheriff's ability to nullify federal mandates, unconstitutional, they're no longer force of law, they're sort of kind of legal maneuverings and wranglings. This is a very efficient means so we could probably talk off the air if we can reactivate that.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Absolutely, I would love to.

Robert Scott Bell:
Very exciting. Very exciting. Listen, there's so many stories to cover that are coming out. We talked about this in the early part of 2012, this was a year of shift. The shift is most definitely on. I saw it with the standing-room only crowds at the Nullify Now conference, I mean, people from all backgrounds, walks of life. And as I've always said, the idea to talk health is something that disarms people because it isn't Republican or Democrat or left or right. It becomes yeah, I want the freedom to choose a healing or healer that I think is right for me. And so it's something that you have, Dr. Buttar, as a doctor, as well. You take care of people that have different religious backgrounds, different philosophical backgrounds, political backgrounds, and all have a bottom line: can you help me? It's like, yes, we can.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Because it's universal, Robert. It transcends all cultural, ethnic, religious bounds. It transcends everything. It transcends geography. It's basically one thing that everyone needs for themselves and wants for themselves and for their loved ones.

Robert Scott Bell:
Well this is the kind of doctor danger that I like. We've talked about the danger of doctors. In this case, the danger of doctors could be that they bring everybody together for freedom, you know, the ones that are awake. People will set aside a lot of their differences when it comes to, well, I want to live. I want to be healthy. Ok, I don't care what your political beliefs are, let's go.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
I agree with you, Robert. I think that that's one of the things where the commonality of people's beliefs is what brings them together and allows them to accomplish something that's extraordinary.

Robert Scott Bell:
I always found, you know our friend Nick Gonzalez, he's terrific. He's a brilliant guy, and people don't realize he's a conservative guy, right. Cause he's got a Hollywood clientele, the ultra-rich left that come to see him for cancer, and they all assume he's a lefty like them, right? He's like this ultra-conservative guy. Great guy, but he doesn't refuse treatment to anyone because they're left of center. The point is, it's just funny, people assume what they are is what their doctor is. Maybe because you don't typically talk politics with your doctor. But the idea is, freedom will bring us together.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
I agree with you a hundred percent.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah, so it's funny how that goes. Doctors are dangerous to people, but we can change things around and make them dangerous to those who would want to enslave people. Hey, another story that just came up on the horizon here, aspirin. They still promote aspirin, even the Life Extension Foundation, and they do a lot of good work. I think Faloon [sic] is a good guy. They still promote this kinda concept that an aspirin a day will be good for your cardiovascular system. I think there are better ways to go. I know what science they're referencing, but here's a story that's referencing off NaturalNews. That it may increase your risk of cancer, not prevent cancer.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
I'm not actually aware of the studies where they try to claim that aspirin would be a prevention against cancer. I'm only aware of the cardiovascular aspect.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yes, and that I agree, that's what we would acknowledge. We've seen that But in this case, what they're also finding, I guess, more often than not I think of it as a vascular thing and not a cancer thing, but the fact that it may be causing or increasing the rates of cancer. That's gotta be a little bit interesting to somebody, right?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Sure, absolutely. Actually, in this particular article they did say that they're finding it to be counter to the original studies showing that aspirin was preventative for cancer. I wasn't even aware of that, I've never even heard that before, but that's what they're saying. And they found that it was actually counter to that original supposition, that it actually increases the risk of cancer and pancreatic cancer. But that's interesting that they're talking about pancreatic cancer and they're talking about doing two aspirins a day for I don't know how many years they did it, but it was 58% more likely to develop pancreatic cancer if they did two aspirins a day. And if they went up to 14 aspirin a day it was 86% more likely to develop pancreatic cancer. But just think about this now. This is a non-steroidal. Basically, if you're dealing with a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug, or you're dealing with the salycilate type drugs, tell me what is the biggest issue for the average person that we have to be concerned about? Forget about cardiovascular disease for a second.

Robert Scott Bell:
Sure, we're talking about stomach and gastrointestinal bleeding.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Exactly, the ulcers, the renal effects. That's what we have to think about. So, if it's gonna affect the stomach and the gastrointestinal system, it's not that big of a leap to think, ok, yeah, you can elicit some type of chronic inflammatory cascade that would affect the pancreas. So I'm not surprised by that. What I do find interesting, though, is that regular use of aspirin is linked to heart attack, stroke, gastrointestinal bleeding, organ damage and death. I see the heart attack and stroke. That's an interesting component because that's actually traditionally what we've used aspirin to prevent. And just for the listeners, I think it's important to mention the entire mechanism of action of aspirin is not known. Aspirin comes from a derivative of natural willow bark, but what is interesting is the mechanism that's used to prevent heart disease and stroke by using aspirin is basically to thin the blood, to make it less?

Robert Scott Bell:
Yes, coagulatable. I love that.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Yes, thank you. Less coagulatable, exactly. To make it less viscous, to prevent it from clotting, essentially. And so it's essentially a thinner, blood thinner is essentially why they're using aspirin. So this part of it is new to me- linked to heart attack and stroke. Now, the caveat here Robert is, remember that this is popular- well this is actually Natural News, but the misinformation out there, how much of this could be intentional misinformation? Not that NaturalNews is going to promote misinformation, but if it's been picked up, I don't know what to think about that because I'll tell you the truth, if I have a patient that's having an acute onset of chest pain that sounds like it may be cardiac, where they've got shortness of breath, diaphoresis, which is sweating, and some nausea going on, they've got crushing chest pain, I'm gonna give them a baby aspirin, maybe two baby aspirins, maybe even four baby aspirins.

Robert Scott Bell:
Sure, but that's what the science supports, too.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Exactly, it does. And we know that people, it's been a mainstay, it's worked. I've seen people- it saved their life, essentially.

Robert Scott Bell:
Versus the chronic use, I think that's the different issue and you have been outspoken ever since we've been connected on the chronic use of any end-stage because of all the reasons we've covered. And you can go back to hundreds- it feels like hundreds of hours. There's lots of hours of archives that you and I've been talking about some great, great stuff here. So, none of it ever expires or goes bad. That's another beautiful thing about it- no preservatives necessary. Now the aspirin thing here as well, I remember the dampening, what they called the eicosanoids. I remember reading that the ?adamo' [sic] was talking about that years ago. But there was some awareness of the autocrine system and how aspirin would impact negatively that system.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
That's true, Robert. There are a lot of things that the chronic use of aspirin will definitely do. The inhibition of prostaglandins and some of these other components, that's obviously a big issue with aspirin. I don't recommend using aspirin for anything except in an acute case where someone's staring to have this particular problem, like crushing chest pain, shortness of breath, sweating and nausea. That pretty much is a classic for acute myocardia infarction. If you're somewhere and you're getting this, yes, take the aspirin. That's what I recommend. I don't use aspirin for anything else. I don't tell people to take aspirin for anything else, I don't care if you've got a headache, pain, whatever, don't use an aspirin. There's so many other things that are so much better to use. But if you're going to take something for anti-coagulation or to help to thin the blood, nattokinase is beautiful. It's one of the most effective things. Actually, taking natural ginger the size of your pinkie- take a piece of ginger and measure it against your pinkie, the actual width and length of your pinkie finger nail, and then take that piece of ginger, chop it up into small pieces with a sharp knife and then scrape that up, throw it inside a cup and then put some hot water in there. Drink that tea and then take the actual remnants of the ginger and just eat them after that. Every other day, you're gonna have a beautiful anti-coagulant. A very effective, natural anti-coagulant. And I, whenever I eat sushi that's the one thing I do. I load up on so much ginger, they tell me, so you like a little bit of sushi with your ginger.

Robert Scott Bell:
Hey, Dr. Buttar, we could have a contest, you and I getting together to go have sushi. Who could have the most of that ginger. I always ask, can you bring some more of that ginger?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
That's what they tell me, they tell me all the time, would you like some sushi with that ginger you ordered?

Robert Scott Bell:
Yes! That's it, you and me, that's right. I love it. Listen, we gotta take a break. We've got a short few minutes. Man, the time flies when Dr. Buttar and I get together. Advanced Medicine Monday continues, remember The Nine Steps to Keep the Doctor Away. I've got a question about young kids going through puberty, younger and younger and younger, for Dr. Buttar when we come back from this break.

Robert Scott Bell:
Children appear to be entering puberty at earlier and earlier ages. It's not an illusion, it's happening. The New York Times has this article out, "Puberty Before Age 10: A New Normal." Look, this is crazy, what's happening, Dr. Buttar.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
I mean this is absurd, the new normal? They're actually talking about all the xenoestrogenic, phytoestrogenic, all the synthetic estrogens that have been introduced to our environment that people are being exposed to. That's what's causing this increased onset of puberty earlier on.

Robert Scott Bell:
Yeah, and the FDA recently said it wasn't going to ban bisphenol A.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Robert Scott Bell:
So they want-why? Why would they want this endocrine disruption? What does it serve them? I mean, in addition to the so-called new normal of early puberty, aren't we seeing increasing rates of infertility in both men and women?

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Infertility, childhood cancers, etc., etc. The list goes on and on. There's all sorts of things we see.

Robert Scott Bell:
So what we're dealing with here is the FDA, I'm acknowledging, as we have for a long time, there's no way to reform the FDA. In my opinion, it should be abolished. It's about defending the indefensible.

Dr. Rashid Butter:
Well, Robert, I want to tell you something, but I'm definitely not going to do it on the air. It's something we're going to hold back and see if it comes to fruition. But if it comes to fruition, there's something that I'm planning. It all depends on certain circumstances. So for everybody listening, hold the intention. But I actually might be doing something hopefully to spearhead the move against the FDA.

Robert Scott Bell:
Don't tell anybody, you've heard it here, but you didn't.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
It wasn't very smart of me to do that, but anyway, as far as the mechanism and how it's going to be done, we're not going to talk about that. But it's interesting where we're going because this may be the year.

Robert Scott Bell:
And you're not the only one, as we know. I don't want everyone to focus on Dr. Buttar for this but the reality is there's a lot of movement coming up. We'll recognize what we've been talking about for years here. And by the way, just to harken back to the new normal of puberty under ten, chapter 11 of Dr. Buttar's book, The Nine Steps to Keep the Doctor Away, a critical chapter on modulating and re-normalizing the endocrine system.

Dr. Rashid Buttar:
Yeah, it actually does talk a lot about that. We talk about the negative inhibitory feedback loop. So, yeah, thanks for bringing that up, Robert. That is a good chapter to get people to understand what the issues really are.

Robert Scott Bell:
Well, there's never enough time when we get together but it's always a blast. People can re-listen if we go through anything too quickly. Thank you, Dr. Buttar, as well, thank you to Heather Woods, Tom Woods' wife for coming on board from Nullify Now. We got to play that in the first hour. And of course, for all of you out there, remember what we're talking about is or should be accessible to you because we're bringing you the principles you can apply for healing in your own lives. As Dr. Buttar brings that to you in his daily practice, as well with his book, that is this: the power to heal is yours.


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